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Frank Curzio: How’s it going out there? It’s Thursday June 30th. I’m Frank Curzio, host of the Wall Street Unplugged podcast, where I breakdown headlines and tell you what’s really moving these markets. It’s Thursday, which means it’s interview day. And I’ve been getting lots of questions about NFT’s, non-fungible tokens. Who want to know how to buy them, what are the best places or the platforms to buy them on, how to connect your wallet, how to know that you’re not getting scammed? I mean, tons of questions have been coming over the past week. Not even this past week, past few weeks.

Frank Curzio: So, I’m bringing in an expert, who’s been trading NFT’s for a long time, and now launched his own platform. And his name is Pete Parente, also goes by the name Captain Awesome. It’s not a joke, Captain Awesome, it’s really cool. So, Pete’s an awesome guy, he is not some young pup that hasn’t been around, is going to tell you how to buy these things, and is brand new to the industry. Because I talk to some of these younger generation kids, and it’s a hard conversation, because I love the arrogance, you’re supposed to be arrogant when you’re young, but you haven’t got the shit kicked out of you yet. And you need that sometimes, when you’re giving other people advice.

Frank Curzio: And Pete is actually 49 years old. I’m sharing that because he did share his age during the interview. A former business consultant, 15 years, served as a Marine in special ops. Is going to talk about that a little bit, it’s really cool, foreign investment banker. Now, he started his own company called Greed, it started a few years ago, where it’s investing in crypto projects, right, Metaverse projects, and specializes in NFT’s, which is collecting, investing, and creating them, including within the music industry where award winning Grammy artists have partnered with him to create NFT’s, royalty streams, things like that. It’s fascinating once you hear it.

Frank Curzio: It’s a great interview for anyone who wants to learn more about this incredible marketplace, which is much more than art, it’s access, it’s proof of ownership in a digital world of any service you want to provide, or any product you want to create. That ownership is why this is such a massive trend, and why we are so big on it at Curzio Research, which includes Web3, Metaverse, NFT’s, all this DeFi being put together, and it’s also why last month… Think about this for me, last month, billions have flowed into Web3 projects, including NFT’s and the Metaverse. Billions of dollars in May. You guys know the market conditions, you know how crazy it is.

Frank Curzio: This is where the big money, institutional money is going, it’s getting funded, that’s how big this trend is. If you want to get in early in trends, follow the big money being invested here. And that’s your opportunity right now, that’s how you know. Everyone can say this market is 30 trillion, 10 trillion, 13 trillion, depending on who you want to listen to, Gardner, McKinsley, you have Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, all coming out with crazy forecasts, which again, are just forecasts and can be BS. Anyone can say whatever they want nowadays. When you see billions, and the money pouring in, especially in this market, that’s when you have to pay attention. And it’s really cool.

Frank Curzio: So, one quick note before we get to the interview, if possible, go to our Curzio Research YouTube page. It’s not a plug, but it’s going to be easy to follow along, because I’m going to bring up sites like OpenSea, and Pete is going to break it down as I have it up on our screen. He’s going to show you exactly how to invest in these projects, what everything means, the floor price, how much you have to pay, how to connect your wallet. And we’re really going to dial it down to show you how to participate in this market, basically answering all the questions you’ve been sending me about NFT’s, again, over the past few weeks. So enough of the buildup, and let’s get to my interview with Captain Awesome right now. Pete, thanks so much for coming on Wall Street Unplugged.

Pete Parente: Thanks for having me, Frank, it’s a pleasure to be here.

Frank Curzio: Thanks. Thanks so much for coming. Yeah. So, I did a nice buildup of you, so… Which is really cool. But I want to introduce you as someone who has… I mean, you’ve been in the Marine special ops, you’ve been a business consultant for 15 years, foreign investment banker. What made you get into crypto? It seems like a big jump from these areas to go all in on crypto.

Pete Parente: It wasn’t something that I was expecting to do. It was just that after all my years of business… And I’ve never actually been driven by the money. I was always driven by the projects. But when I was driven by the project and the challenges, by putting my hard work in, it did turn into money. But after all the years of working as a business consultant, it just started getting old after a while. I was dealing with the lawyers, business, and everything else, and I wasn’t motivated by money anymore. So actually, I gave that up. If you go back to June 2020, COVID hit and everything, and I was just sick of everything going on, and I did miss what I was doing for years in special ops.

Pete Parente: So, I got rid of all my businesses, and now my son has been… He turned 15, and he understood my background, and what my passion is, and I really enjoy being with my special ops guys. So, I signed a private military contract June 2020 for an emergency response team in Iraq. I’m sorry, Afghanistan.

Pete Parente: And here I am, at the time… So, what am I now? 48. I’m 46 years old, getting back into special ops. It was because one of my buddies, who’s… A lot of my friends that were in stayed in, and I’ve always kept myself in better shape than most people. He would joke and be like, “You’re in better shape than I am, man. We can use you back out there.” So, I was like, “You know what?” He knew. He goes, “I know you’re sick of all the stuff going on in this world and everything else.” He was like, “You just need to get back with the boys. Let’s get the band back together and go.”

Pete Parente: So, I signed on with Garda Federated. And it was basically… It was an emergency response team in Afghanistan. So, it was a special ops contract, you had to be Marine recon, Navy SEAL, or Army special forces. And I was Marine recon. And the cool thing was the job description. I don’t want to just go out there and be doing hits for the government. I liked this one because you actually rescued people. Our job, or our description was we go rescue hostages that were kidnapped, or from people and places that were under siege, we help evacuate them. And yes, if there’s a threat that came in that was going to be putting people in danger, innocents, then we’d have to go neutralize them. So, that was a contract that I took.

Pete Parente: And with that, I had to wait. I mean, it’s kind of funny. I needed one piece of paper from the government, because this was… I got out of the Marine Corps back in 1996. And in 1996, I got my DD 214, which is a discharge paper. Well, everything changed over the years, they went electronic, and they had different forms. So, I needed an updated form.

Pete Parente: And it’s funny, because here I am trying to get a form, one form, one piece of paper, it’s not a whole bunch, it’s one piece of paper. I needed one piece of paper from the government for the government. And that was in June I tried to retrieve it. I didn’t get it until October. So, I lost that contract, I had to go back into the queue, wait for it again. And then I wound up getting in a car accident. And I tore my rotator cuff, I hurt my back, and that was it. There was no chance for me to go back into special ops 46 years old, I wasn’t going to heal from it.

Pete Parente: So, I was just looking to recreate myself. I didn’t want to go back to working with business consulting. So I said, “You know what? Let me check out this crypto thing.” And I started trading it. Contacted a friend who was into it, he started guiding me. And I’ll never forget, the first coin I bought was Shiba Inu. And that was back before it got listed, before it ran.

Pete Parente: And the reason I’m bringing this up is because I get this a lot when I talk to people who are new to crypto. They’re like, “I don’t understand.” I was like, “Well, if you go back to last April, not the one that just passed, the year before, April 2021, I bought my first coin Shiba Inu. And it took my friend three days, over the phone, to walk me through the processes to be able to set up my accounts to get the Ethereum I needed, to learn how to swap, and do everything. It took three days and I don’t know how many hours just to buy my first coin.”

Pete Parente: Well, I did make some decent money with it, because I did get it way before it listed. And as I started trading in the crypto markets, and I saw great opportunity, I also saw there was a bunch of nonsense going on. And I was like, “You know, there’s so many great projects. Some of them have… They’re either a great project, or they have a great community. And there’s so much that could be done.” But what I noticed was, there was a lack of experience. There were just people slinging crypto because they could make money with it. But none of them had business experience, nothing was set up for business.

Pete Parente: So I thought to myself, if I could come in using my skills from years, since 1996, the moment I got out of the Marine Corps, I became a stock broker. I was working as a stock broker, investment banker, business consultant since 1996, and I’m like, “If I use my skills in the crypto markets…” And basically all I wanted to do was deliver to the people what everyone says they’re going to do. Because everyone launches a crypto coin with promises of what’s going to happen, and they all get inflated, nothing ever happens, and then they crash. And it reminded me of back in the days when we had the dot com days. And I was a stock broker then. Everyone was buying everything dot com. I’m sure you remember, Frank, dot com this, dot com that.

Pete Parente: But then you find something like buyapetrock.com and people are like, “Oh my God, it’s a dot com, it’s a tech.” And then everyone sat back, and they looked at all the companies they were buying, they said, “What do these companies actually do?” And buyapetrock.com was selling pet rocks, they weren’t a pet company, they weren’t a true dot com. And you remember, the market crashed and went back to being a value driven market.

Pete Parente: And I thought that’s what might happen to crypto, so let me come in and build something with value. Do the value first. Build the foundation and everything else. And once you have that, and people start seeing, and they stop buying stuff because Elon Tweets his dog’s name, or any of the other crazy reasons, some influencer does a Tweet and everyone is going to buy it, and you’re like, “Well, but why are you buying the coin?” Because she Tweeted it. Kim Kardashian Tweeted it. What does that have to do with the company thought? So that was the reason why I decided to get into crypto and launch my own token. I wanted to bring the people something of value.

Frank Curzio: No, that’s really cool. That’s a great story, man. And appreciate your service and everything. And I know you turned your focus to NFT’s, non-fungible tokens. I think a lot of people, even on this podcast, are familiar with that term. I bet you a lot of people believe it’s only artwork, or its ownership, right, of your material. And it tracks it, where you can make royalties off of it, something that’s… Again, I explained this on my podcast, but digital certificates of ownership, and those certificates can apply to anything, not just art and stuff. But this is an industry that you’ve been in where you educate me.

Frank Curzio: And I’m turning to people who are serious in this industry, especially now, because you’re seeing all the garbage get weeded out, which is awesome. And you’ve been active in this market. And I want you to try to explain it if you can, in the easiest possible way, because sometimes, I’ll have conversations with you and I got to say, “Hey, Pete, Pete, Pete, slow down, buddy.” So, because there is a massive, massive audience. I mean, this is a very small market right now that’s going to become probably about 100 X of the size that it is now.

Frank Curzio: Just to put it in perspective, when you talked about the dot com crash, and I looked this up, and this is going to surprise the hell out of you, do you know what internet adoption, global internet adoption was in March 2000 during the crash? Do you know how many people were on the internet globally? It was only 5%. Only 5% of people back then, right? And now, you’re looking at the NFT market being so small, but it’s going to be in a market that you’re going to be forced to learn about it.

Frank Curzio: But you have this incredible talent that you can weed out a lot of the BS. You introduced me to Adam Russel, who I had on last week, who was telling me about the security behind NFT’s, trying to legitimize this industry, and weed out the garbage. But let’s start from scratch. If somebody wants to purchase an NFT, what’s the easiest way to do it? And I mean, your experience on this is incredible. So, I’m hoping you can dial it down, because people are very, very interested in this if they know that they can do it the right way, they can buy stuff they like, and they’re not going to get robbed.

Pete Parente: So, what I’m going to start off by saying though is, it’s not that I’m brilliant, and I’m not the smartest guy out there. Everything I’m figuring it out, I’ve lost a lot of money figuring it out, because just like with the crypto markets, NFT’s different than even a token. It’s a whole other world. And what I can tell you is, forget everything you’ve known about business and what makes sense, and you got to look at… It’s a totally different approach to it. And really, I didn’t start getting into… As much as I started buying NFT’s a year ago, I didn’t really start understanding them until we were launching the NFT marketplace, and I really had to get in. And how do you do that? You start investing a lot of your own money in, you start losing a lot of your own money, and then you realize, “Okay, I got to figure this out.” And that’s how I do it with any… The same thing with coming into crypto.

Pete Parente: So what I can tell you, for the NFT’s, first of all, we want to go through the simple part of it. Right now, there’s a couple different marketplaces, and OpenSea is the biggest one, it’s the one that houses most of the NFT’s. You can probably get any NFT there. So, that’s just opensea.io.

Pete Parente: And when you go to OpenSea, there’s a couple different ways to trade. You have to connect your wallet to it. When people are like, “Oh, I trade through a centralized exchange like Coinbase. Now, you can’t use Coinbase, you can’t use your centralized exchanges. You might be now. I don’t know if Coinbase has launched their own NFT market. It seemed like it was a big… There was a big bunch of marketing behind it, they launched it, and then we heard nothing else after. But you can see here, up top right, you got the little wallet icon there.

Pete Parente: So now, you need to have your wallet, which is going to be a decentralized wallet like MetaMask, Trust Wallet. I like to use Trust Wallet. A lot of the projects you have, if you’re going to buy a new project, or what they call minting. When we say mint a project, so before an NFT comes out and it hits the marketplace, you might have to mint it from that company’s website. And when you mint it, it just means you’re basically, you’re buying the first one.

Pete Parente: So, a lot of those projects though, you have to use MetaMask on a computer. But I would say, if you’re going to do it, without getting into too much security, there’s a lot of hacks that go on, make sure you do things properly. And I think, Frank, that would be another time we could go over security and really tying it down.

Frank Curzio: And real quick too, Pete. So right now, if you’re watching this on YouTube, and I know that most of you people listen through iTunes, but I brought up the OpenSea, and that’s why you’re saying, “Hey, connect the wallet on the right hand side.” But I just brought something up, sports trading cards. It says items, 26, owners, 252, floor price, total volume. Talk about floor price. What’s floor price? What’s .01? I want to go down to the basics of this and explain it, because I don’t see people… You see some YouTube videos, but not a lot. I just want to get the… Yeah, go ahead.

Pete Parente: So, what you’re seeing here though, this is more of an individual artist that has it. There’s only 26 items. If you’re buying a lot of these individual artists with something like this, you’re buying it to support an artist. That’s going to be more something you’re going to buy at floor price, .0… So, what the floor price means, that’s the lowest priced one in the collection.

Pete Parente: But let’s do this. Let me have you go up top in the search bar, and I’m going to show you right now my favorite NFT project that I’m in the heaviest, and I’ll explain why in a minute. Killa. K-I-L-L-A. Start typing that. And it should open up, you see Killa Bears, click on Killa Bears.

Frank Curzio: Okay.

Pete Parente: And you’re going to laugh, if you knew how much money… I joke now about… Because these are investments. And the joke of it is, yes, you’re talking about the true value behind NFT’s, and most people are like, “But you’re buying pictures.” Now, this is a better one to look at, because a lot of the people that are trading, when you want to make money, you need to buy… I don’t want to say you need to, but these are the types of NFT’s. This is the same kind of set up like the Bored Ape Yacht Club, Doodles, all the big names. And I could have bought one of them, but this is one that I have a passion for, so it’s easier to talk about. So right now, you can see, in this collection of these bears, there’s 3,333. So, you see the amount of items?

Frank Curzio: Mm-hmm.

Pete Parente: The floor price is .794 Ethereum. What the floor price is, that’s the lowest priced bear there right now. So, the floor is the absolute lowest price. But if you scroll down a little bit, and you can start seeing… The other thing, hit buy now, all right, on the left hand side up top by status, click that buy now button, because I want to make sure it’s only showing what you can buy, yeah.

Frank Curzio: Okay.

Pete Parente: So now, you see the floor is that .749. But if you keep scrolling down, the floor goes up.

Frank Curzio: Mm-hmm. Yeah, they’re going up, yeah.

Pete Parente: So you see that, right? These are the ones, even though the floor is there, right now, I’m telling you, for an example, I don’t want to tell you which bear, but there’s a bear right now, I just got… You have to have liquidity to buy it. I’m trying to get back to some Ethereum, because all of my money… This is going to be the funniest thing that I say probably all day to your investors, because they’re intelligent investors. My life savings is invested in JPEG’s right now.

Pete Parente: So, in order to buy more JPEG’s, I need to liquidate some money. So right now, I’m actually, from this collection, you’re still at 1.1 Eth, there’s a bear right now that I’m looking to acquire that’s for sale, it’s right now seven Ethereum. So, you’re just seeing the floor price. But the thing is, it might be a better value for me to buy this bear because it’s more rare at seven Ethereum. There’s other ones in this collection, one of them just sold for 15,000. For 15 Ethereum, so $15,000. So, this is just showing you the floor price.

Pete Parente: Now, this was a free mint. This was one that they launched it for free, everyone that got on the list was able to get in. And then it slowly starts moving up. I mean, this was free. Now the floor, if you look at it, it’s almost $1,000, the floor price. That’s crazy. And it keeps going.

Pete Parente: But then, so when you were saying why did I buy that project? You can find some of the best art out there. And yes, I think it’s cute, but it’s kind of funny, here I am, look at me. See this guy? I’m saying, “Oh, I’m buying these bears, they’re cute little bears.” But that’s not why. I mean, you have to like the art, I do like the art. But before I understood how to make money with NFT’s, I was buying great looking art. But you don’t make money with it, because I found out the real secret. And now, what makes these things move is the community. So, forget about how-

Frank Curzio: Talk about community. Talk about it, because community, I mean, now when people say community, okay, you think of a Facebook group, or it’s… I mean, some of these communities, whether it’s Telegram of Discord, are millions of people that are getting behind these projects, and decide and say, “Hey, this is a great project, yo, let’s get…” And what I’m seeing, even with Bored Ape, it’s not a pump and dumb scheme, these are people that are buying these things and collecting them, they’re not looking to resell them right away.

Frank Curzio: Where the NFT market has collapsed… But yet, over the past month or two, I’ve had conversation with you saying, “I’ve made a lot of money in NFT’s.” Because you know where the quality is, you know where the groups are, you know which ones are focused, and you know which ones are BS, and which are not, right? I mean, it’s really the experience in it, I guess.

Pete Parente: So, and again, every day, I’d buy new projects that come out, because they look like… So, there’s gambles. So, there’s ones, they’re called blue chips. Anything Bored Apes do, Doodles do, those are the blue chip type companies. Yuga Labs owns Bored Apes. For the long run, they’re going to put a lot into it, they’re always going to make it work. Every day, there’s tons of NFT’s popping up. I’m going to give you one quick example. The Goblins right now. Have you heard of the Goblins? Goblin Town.

Frank Curzio: I’ve heard of them, yes. Mm-hmm.

Pete Parente: Right. It’s probably the biggest NFT thing to hit. And they just changed the whole game. It was a free mint. And I went in and I bought six of them at .05 Eth. .05. It was, what, $100? Six of them. So $600 total. I’m sorry, seven, because I remember it was $700 total. They ran up to 10 Eth each within a month. So, each $100 I had was over 10 grand. They’re back down. You know how everything moves. You watch the market, the chart goes up, it comes down, it corrects, it goes up, it’s down, corrects.

Pete Parente: So, this was a free mint. Everyone who got in, got in for free. I got in at .05. Currently, the floor on that one is still three Ethereum. So, all my goblins, they’re three Ethereum, the floor. There’s 10,000 of them. So, I have ones that rank up in the top 1,000. And that’s the other thing too, when we talk about the floor, if you have one that’s ranked 10,000, that’s worth floor. But if you have something ranked in the top 100, even though… Some of those right now, I think someone paid $80,000 for one of the goblins in the higher end, even though it’s a $3,000 floor, some of the higher ranked ones will go for… Some of them are being sold for 100 Eth. It just depends.

Pete Parente: So, the point I’m bringing up with this one is, I tried that one. But just like this one, I jump into other ones that are gambles. This one went, it did great. Other ones, I bought in for $100, they’re at nothing, and like you said, pump and dump, disappear, because I just thought it was something cool. I have my gambling money, and then I have my blue chip money that I’ll put in.

Pete Parente: So what I found, the first… And I’m going to bring… The first community I found… And I had to go to my friends who were big into NFT’s to help me. I know a lot less about it than some of these guys. But what I do is, I cheat. Instead of me going and doing all the tracking, the charting, and everything else, I’ve learned which guys in the community I’ve become friendly with, what they’re buying. And when someone like these guys get in, all the other people start buying.

Pete Parente: And when I say community, for an example, the first community I bought into where I started learning this was the Quirkies. Great project, one of the strongest communities out there. They’re quirky.

Frank Curzio: So, if someone wanted to get into that community and start learning more, I mean, is it Twitter, is it Discord, is it Telegram? Do you have to be invited to it? I mean, how could you follow these people?

Pete Parente: Well, you could follow them on… I follow Twitter, personally. I get lost in Discord. I’m 47. I know the younger generation… When I have to have work done in Discord, my 16-year-old son, he set up my Discord for me, and set it up for Greed and everything. Still, I get lost. So with NFT’s, Discord used to be the biggest, but now it’s Twitter. Twitter is really… You still have a discord to do some more communication, but Twitter is it. What you want to do is, I follow them on Twitter, and if you’re into it, if you can figure out Discord, unlike me, use Discord. But those are the two where you want to be for NFT’s. But now that Twitter has Spaces, they’re taking over as the hot place. Not Instagram, Facebook is dead, Instagram is kind of dead, even Discord.

Pete Parente: So, that was the cool thing about the Goblins. They changed the game. No one knew what it was, they didn’t tell anyone who they were. They came out, they said, “We have no Discord, we got no road…” This is the funniest, “We have no Discord, no roadmap, nothing. We’re just giving you a free mint.” They had a brilliant plan, but they acted like they didn’t. It’s a brilliant group of people. And everyone bought in.

Pete Parente: So, they kind of changed the game and proved you don’t need all the other stuff, you just need Twitter. If you’re going to do any one thing, it’s Twitter. So, you could follow them. But the way you get in, you want to buy one of the NFT’s, you’re part of it, and then you start becoming part of the community.

Pete Parente: Like with the Quirkies, I bought the NFT’s, and then you start getting added to groups. And every day, when you see, if you want to help, that’s how you do it. They call it shilling. In crypto, if you buy a coin, or you buy an NFT project, and you want to help support it, you shill it, you start promoting it. I’m sure, Frank, you’ve seen some of my Twitter, I dress up like the bears, I post it. Why? Now they’re like, “Oh my God.” And I tried to explain to them, the reason I dress up like the bear and do that is, I don’t know how to use Photoshop. Kids out there are doing Photoshop.

Frank Curzio: That’s great. I mean, it is marketing, right? You want to bring attention to something that’s pretty cool. But I want to transition into Greed and what you’re doing. So, you started a company, Greed. You have a Greed token. And I want to get into two parts of it, because I don’t want this to go on too long, and I want to keep it simple for everyone. And one is the music part, the other is your own NFT marketplace. Let’s look at your site now. I mean, talk about your NFT marketplace.

Pete Parente: Okay. So, the reason we started our own NFT marketplace, there’s a couple reasons. When we first started launching, the reason… And I’m going to go backwards though, if that’s okay, we launched and I had to find… I don’t want to say my gimmick. But if you’re going to do a project, you got to find something that works. And my friend that I went to high school with, Ted Kay, he was a business partner in Epidemic Records with Cool & Dre. They were Grammy Award winning music producers that have been doing it for over 20 years. They produced Jay-Z, Beyonce, and actually, Jay-Z is Dre’s best… One of his best friends. They launched DJ Khaled.

Pete Parente: And I said, “Ted, hook me up with Cool & Dre, I want to talk to them.” The original thing I wanted to talk to them about was music NFT’s. And this is going back when we started over a year ago. And I had to find something that would work. I had to find something that was going to make sense. And I thought, “You know what? These guys have so much music.”

Pete Parente: So, I went to them, and I said, “Hey, when you guys produce a hit song, how many other versions do you have?” Cool was like, “Man, we could have 10, 20, 30 other versions that we didn’t use.” I was like, “Where are they?” He’s like, “Oh, we have them stored in a little… A storage thing.” I’m like, “Do you have everything?” He goes, “Not only do we have different versions from the songs that we’ve produced.” He goes, “We’ve got some songs with some of the biggest names in music that never hit it, because we were trying to produce them for a record label, the record label didn’t go with it. So there’s songs, great songs that were sitting there.”

Pete Parente: So, the first thing I was looking at was, you guys have been in the music industry for years, and they’ve always been ahead of the industry. So think about it, back in the day, you had to have a big label. If you didn’t have a label, you had nothing, right? Then all of a sudden, you got Napster, you got YouTube, you got all these other ways. Now there’s Spotify. The trends keep changing.

Pete Parente: And I said, “Hey, guys, listen, music NFT’s, it’s going to be the… NFT’s are big, what about music NFT’s for artists?” I said, “Would you be willing to take all those songs…” Because think about this, Frank, who’s your favorite recording artist?

Frank Curzio: I’m a big fan, I mean, all the old school rappers, I mean, you have Busta Rhymes here, Cool & Dre, in case you don’t know, guys, award winning artists, I mean, all the old school rap, Big Daddy Kane, a big fan of, NWA.

Pete Parente: Just give me one. It could be any recording artist.

Frank Curzio: I mean, I’m a big fan of Goo Goo Dolls, I’m a big fan… Actually, we’re going to a concert in a couple days for, I think it’s Poison, and Motley Crue, Def Leopard. So, there you go.

Pete Parente: All right, now think about this, let’s say for example, you had Poison, right? And “Every Rose Has It’s Thorn,” and it’s out there, they got that hit song. What if there were 20 alternate versions that you could make an NFT out of with the music and an image that no one else has had, and no one else has ever heard, and there’s 20 versions, and you could buy one of them? That no one else had as a fan. So, you’re a collector now. That could go for how much money? You own that different version. You own the rights to it, you own everything.

Pete Parente: And that’s what I went to them and said, “Guys, what if we were to start now?” It’s a way for, I mean, think about it, for Poison, yeah, Brett Michaels is out there singing, but a lot of these older bands, it’s a way for them to generate more money and get them back in touch with their fans.

Frank Curzio: And it’s huge. I mean, you’re a fan of a music group, I mean, even we’re going to see Def Leopard, my wife is a huge, huge fan, especially Motley Crue. I mean, when you see those people, they’re diehards. It’s like going to a Rolling Stones concert. I mean, they dress up leather, you see these 50-, 60-year old’s. I mean, they’re diehards. I mean, there’s a massive market for things like this, just memorabilia. And it makes a lot of sense, even for athletes, and going on. And that’s a big part of the NFT market, yeah, I get it, that’s awesome. But now with music royalties, it makes a lot of sense. Yeah.

Pete Parente: So Cool, when I talked to him about doing all the old stuff, he looked at me, he goes, “Yeah.” But he goes, “You know what, we want to do that.” He goes, “But we were looking at…” I already launched my other one, Baby Dojini, which is part of the Greed ecosystem. That was my learn into it, and I’m building utility around it. He goes, “We saw what you did with the coin, you built up the community.” He’s like, “Man, we think we should launch a whole crypto music label.” And I thought they were going to be like, “Epidemic.” And he goes, “No, we love Greed. We love the way the logo, we love the way you did it.”

Pete Parente: And I’m going to real quick, I do the whole “greed is good” by Gordon Gecko and all that, but I just want to really cover why we called it Greed. Because some people go, “The name, it throws people back.” The reason I called it Greed was, we were joking around, but when I told my buddy I was going to launch a token, I was like, “I should launch maybe a charity token.” Because I do a lot of charitable work with my children’s books and other stuff that I have. He’s like, “You know what? Cut it out. All these charity tokens that are launching, they’re scams. They come say they’re a charity token, they get the people to believe they’re doing charity. The only charity it’s going to is the owner’s pockets.”

Pete Parente: He’s like, “Just call it Greed. Let’s just call it what it is. People are buying crypto to make money and that’s it.” So, my point of calling it Greed was joking around and saying, “Guys, listen, it’s okay to want to buy crypto and make money for yourself.” Because that’s the truth. If there’s three tokens out there, if there’s something with great utility, there’s a charity token, or one that’s just going to make you money, everyone is going to buy the one that makes them money.

Pete Parente: So, it’s fine. My point is, it’s okay to want to make money for yourself, because once you make money for yourself, you can donate to whatever you want. So the joke is, by calling it Greed, it allows us to start off our relationship telling the truth that we all are here for this. Instead of building… You can’t build a real relationship on lies. So, we just called it Greed token.

Pete Parente: I just wanted to clear that up, because people are like, “Why Greed? It’s such a bad name.” It’s not. It’s a good thing. And really, it drives everything. Everything we do is driven by greed. So with that, we now have the music label. Oh, and by the way, we are launching our first song under the music label, which is going to be Cool & Dre, its Magic Hour. It’s going to be Cool & Dre featuring Fat Joe and Busta Rhymes. But we’re doing something different.

Pete Parente: And the reason I went into this whole story was, OpenSea is the big marketplace, right? But we couldn’t launch on there the way we needed to launch. So I said, “You know what? Let’s build our own marketplace, more of a boutique marketplace.” OpenSea doesn’t offer any different technologies, or help with contracts. So, we built this marketplace so that we could help other recording artists. So, if you go to OpenSea and you don’t have your own contract, you have to go pay thousands of dollars to have someone create your smart contract to launch your NFT’s, or you use theirs. You launch through OpenSea, it’s their contract, not yours. They actually own it. So, they could take your stuff down, they control you. At the end of the day, it’s their control, not yours.

Frank Curzio: So, I want to say that… I want to move on, because we’ve got about three minutes left, and I wanted to get into the Metaverse part, because if we look at the Metaverse, trending, you’re very familiar with, you were early to buy land in Decentraland. And then you went to TCG, and now you’re a partner there. And talk about your relationship with them. Because people don’t know this, a lot of you have come into a private place, and we’re still open where we made the largest virtual real estate purchase in the history, of five million, which got blown away a few weeks later, which is good, because that blow away version was… And TCG is well over, I think it was 102 million for virtual land purchase.

Frank Curzio: But I was introduced through you, right? So, I met one of your workers at a conference, Alex. And then introduced… And you helped me with this deal with them, in terms of commercial real estate, exactly what we wanted. So, you’re basically the person. So, anyone who’s invested today is because of you, right? So, I just want everyone to know that, which is amazing. So, I thank you for that, for the deal that we got into. But talk about TCG and why, why you like… Go ahead.

Pete Parente: Frank, it’s on, you, not me though. When it goes…

Frank Curzio: Yeah, I know. If things don’t work out, man… Yeah.

Pete Parente: I’m all in on TCG myself. I bought Decentraland first. I bought Decentraland first, but I’m actually going to build on Decentraland to market to TCG, because I believe in TCG. After I saw what TCG World was doing as a Metaverse, that was it, I was sold. And again, it’s more than just a project. I met the owner, David, I deal directly with David from TCG World. The reason we started off is I had the big names. And when they were starting to build as a Metaverse, they needed to bring big names to attract people. So, we came in and we brought Ken Shamrock and his Valor Coin, we brought Ja Rule over there. I talked to celebrities from all this, I’m like, “Hey, you should come to TCG.” And it’s helping them bring people in to build it up. So, as we started doing that, I built a good relationship with them. I think I’m bringing in, when we go to the event, the Metaverse Expo-

Frank Curzio: Next week, yeah.

Pete Parente: 25% of the people who are going to be there were from intros over here. But just a real quick too, why I wanted to use the Metaverse, and I thought it was important, as I got into the music part of it, back in… Over a year ago, everyone… I was talking about the Metaverse way before Meta, way before anything, because what I thought would be cool… And that’s why I said, I wanted to build not just a coin, I wanted to build a whole ecosystem.

Pete Parente: So, Cool & Dre have their recording studio in North Miami. It’s not just for who they produce. I mean, that’s their money, that’s their bread and butter. People come from all over the world, huge recording artists. I mean, it’s more like Miami. You’re going to go to a couple places, and it’s a great studio. And I thought, “How cool would it be…” And the reason I thought about this was, some of you might have had the same experience, you hear a certain recording artist…

Pete Parente: I’m going to bring one up. And not to talk bad about him. When I first saw Post Malone, I judged him, I heard one of his songs, I’m like, “What is this?” And then I started looking at him as a recording artist, and understanding more. I think I saw a show on him, I’m like, “Wow, this guy’s brilliant.”

Frank Curzio: He is brilliant. He is brilliant, mm-hmm.

Pete Parente: Just like wine. I never liked wine. I went to Napa, now I’ve been to Napa six times. I’m a wine connoisseur, because I got to appreciate it. So I thought, “You know what? To me, the Metaverse could do the same thing.” What I want to do is livestream our recording artists from the recording studio to the Metaverse, for a couple of reasons.

Pete Parente: I mean, if they’re recording artist who are now the older guys, they get to touch back with their fan base, they could stay in tune, they could see what’s happening. And like you, if you see these recording artists in the studio, and seeing how they work, it’s going to give you an appreciation for them. So, it works both ways. The other thing is, some of our younger guys coming up.

Pete Parente: Now remember, NFT’s are an investment. This isn’t all about the art, or buying the thing. It’s an investment. So, if we have a no name… And you’ve seen some of my guys, Matt Corman, he’s going to be performing at the Metaverse Expo. I think the kid’s going to be a superstar. I want to bring him out. And no one might have heard of him. But when I’m watching the kid on YouTube, I’m like… He’s my playlist. I don’t listen to anything. I listen to him.

Pete Parente: So, you get him in a recording studio, people start seeing him, it’s another way for a young kid who’s trying to make money coming up. So, he goes in the recording studio. Let’s say he’s there, you’re watching him, he’s livestreaming his feed. You get to appreciate his music. Now, you know when he launches, I want him to have part of that. Or a way for him to supplement his income and have you get something special. Let’s say he goes in and he works on 10 versions of a song, but he’s not going to use any of them, same thing, he can chop up those 10 versions, maybe sell them as an NFT for a one of one, couple hundred dollars each, it’s going to help the kid pay for his recording studio, it’s going to help him get by and pay bills.

Pete Parente: These younger guys… I mean, imagine getting, I don’t even know, talk about Jay-Z, imagine getting Jay-Z before anyone even heard of him, and you have his stuff that he was doing in the recording studio, and you own that one of one, and now he’s a superstar, what’s that worth?

Frank Curzio: Yeah.

Pete Parente: So it allows… I won’t say… It allows you to educated guess gamble on your investments. People might go through and be like, “I’m going to go buy…” Like I do with these other NFT’s that come up. I see them, they’re cheap, I buy a couple of them, boom, they either go or they don’t. Same thing with that, it gives you the ability. So, that’s why I went into the Metaverse.

Pete Parente: And then Decentraland though, you buy property, it’s 2D, it’s… I did it because it was the blue chip. When I saw what TCG World was doing, I went all in. I mean, you’ve seen. You went in big. But look at the size of the property we have. Why? I’m going to say the main reason is because of the owner, David. He didn’t care about money. He’s more concerned with the project. And I said to him one time, I was like, “We’re Greed, we’re going to bring in the slum, we want to bring a strip club, we’re going to do OnlyFans.” He’s like, “Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, man, I want to leave this to the kids.”

Pete Parente: Listen, I mean, money is money, business is business. If I can help do OnlyFans and bring it in, I’m a businessman. But I really appreciate the fact that he was like, “Nope, not that. I want this for my kids.” And he doesn’t care about money. He puts the project first. The other thing that’s interesting is, he’s helping all of his people develop their projects because he doesn’t want people just to buy land in TCG and have it sit there. He wants them to develop it so that when people come from the outside in, they don’t just come in and walk around for five minutes and be bored. They’re like, “Oh my God, I want to see this, I want to go there, I want to go there.”

Pete Parente: So, they’re also helping. He’s helping me develop, he’s helping give me utility there. So it’s really… What is it? It’s a 4K Metaverse, unlike these other ones. It’s a high definition, 4K Metaverse. And the whole thing is gamified, which is amazing, it’s totally different. Not to talk bad. But in Decentraland, or Sandbox, you can buy a car, but you can’t drive it.

Frank Curzio: Isn’t that weird?

Pete Parente: TCG, you can buy the car, you can drive it. I can drive it from my place to your place. They have dragons. Real dragons that fly. You can jump on the dragon and fly the dragon.

Frank Curzio: Yeah.

Pete Parente: And then all throughout, even on our property, they incentivize it for people to come in. They have little creatures and NFT’s walking around, even in my area. So people can come over and be like, “What’s this Greed?” It doesn’t even matter. If they’re playing in TCG, which is… Remember, TCG stands for Trading Card Game. So, they could be walking around Greed’s property and find… They’re going to have a special dragon that if you catch it, you could get $50,000.

Frank Curzio: Mm-hmm

Pete Parente: What if you find that on Greed? So they’re going to have this all throughout. They’re going to have it on your property, on my property. So, they’re doing more than any other person to incentivize the builds, and keep it engaging, because they want people not just… Go check it out, guys, go…

Frank Curzio: It’s got to be entertaining, and it’s got to be fun. And that’s what’s going to draw the attention of more and more people, which is awesome. All right, so one minute left here, Pete. And we covered a lot. So, this is the most important thing by far. I’m looking at a picture here where you’re sitting… You’re in front of this Jeep, you got these shorts on, this nice helmet on, and you’re shooting… I don’t even know what kind of gun that is, but it looks like a freaking massive… I don’t even know. What is that that you’re shooting?

Pete Parente: It’s my flamethrower. That’s the beginning of the flamethrower shot.

Frank Curzio: Okay, hold that thought. Hold that thought. So that’s… If you see YouTube, you’re going to see you, right, with your muscles flared, and everything, and yet, on your bio, it says that you’re award winning children’s book author. Please explain.

Pete Parente: So, go back to the early 2000’s, and I was a stockbroker at the time, and I don’t know… I was also crazy. I went and I had a kinkajou as a pet, because I was just… I turned my guest room into a rainforest, I had a kinkajou, I had a sloth, I was just… I was a young kid with too much money, I didn’t know what to do. So, I did dumb things.

Pete Parente: But one morning, I woke up getting ready to go to work. I was possessed, and I sat there. And I don’t write. I don’t even like to read. Sorry, I don’t like to read, I like someone to tell me. I can’t do Ikea, I can’t follow directions. But I woke up and I had this feeling, and I got possessed. And I wrote this story. And it came out as is, it barely changed. And it was Peeper the Kinkajou. It was based on my kinkajou.

Pete Parente: And the cool thing is, it was something that turned into a multi-award winning book. I got a Disney Parenting Award, which is Disney’s iParenting Media Award. And I was the editor’s hot pick. Because they give a couple of them a year. But Peeper the Kinkajou was the editor’s hot pick. So I wrote a series, I published… I only published, I think, the first one. The second one was going to come out with… I’m going to now turn this stuff into NFT’s, I will get there. And then I wrote another one, it had a lavender skunk, Bloomer to the Rescue, which was… It also got a Mom’s Choice Award. And that’s a younger one, it’s a pre-K, kindergarten book, and it’s about bullying. I think they’re cute. Wait until we do the NFT’s. But yeah, it just happened, I didn’t mean to do it, it was just-

Frank Curzio: That’s cool, man. And sometimes they’re the best projects, mm-hmm.

Pete Parente: Everyone thought I was crazy. One day I went fishing in the Keys. I was a stockbroker. I went fishing in the Keys one day, I came back, I told my wife at the time, I said, “Let’s go move to the Keys.” She’s like, “What?” I’m like, “Yeah, I don’t want to be a broker anymore.” I’ve always known what I wanted to be. She’s like, “What are you going to do?” I’m like, “I’m going to be an author, that’s it.” Everyone thought I was nuts like, “Dude, this guy lost his mind.” I went to the Keys, became a multi-award winning children’s author, I was touring the country, doing presentations. So yeah, it’s just…

Frank Curzio: That’s great stuff. So, Pete, we covered so much. I know I’m going to get lots of questions. If people have questions, they want to find you, how can they do that? If you want to give your Twitter handle, I know it’s Greed. But how can they get in touch with you if they have some questions, especially about NFT’s, music royalties, and things?

Pete Parente: Because I’m not the best social media guy, I’m the older guy, I’m not the… Right now, I see most of my stuff on Twitter. The best way to catch me is on Twitter. I don’t know if you have the link to give them, or… But yeah, best way to catch me is there. I don’t really… People have to tell me when to go on Telegram or other areas, but Twitter is definitely the best place to catch me.

Frank Curzio: So Twitter. And what’s your handle? Is it Captain Awesome? Is that it?

Pete Parente: It’s at C-A-P-T awesome, underscore D-E-V, dev.

Frank Curzio: Okay, so if they want to follow you.

Pete Parente: Or, if they go through and hit Greed, it’s better, because someone will get to me. Mine, I don’t always see if we’re not following each other.

Frank Curzio: Mm-hmm.

Pete Parente: It’s always tough to see. But if they hit the Greed one, and it’s Greed Ecosystem is the Twitter for that. One of the people from our community will get to me and let me know.

Frank Curzio: And you can find a lot of this too on greedtoken.com. Your website. But, Pete, listen, thanks so much, man. I know you’re explaining something, you dial it down to an audience that’s learning. That’s what we do here, we want to educate people that are out there, because as you can see, people like to speculate with their money. And when I’m looking at crypto, and it looks speculation, when you come to the markets, it’s almost impossible to get 10 X, five X winners in the markets where they’re coming out of these crazy evaluations. That’s why you’ve seen the market come down so much right now.

Frank Curzio: And crypto too, crypto… But if you’re going to speculate, right, and you’re down 50, 60% on some of these, or 70, 80% on IPO’s that came out that you invested in once it started trading publicly at these crazy valuations, whether it’s Coinbase, Robinhood, or whatever, getting into some of these things, the reward can be astronomical and life changing. And you’re seeing it grow.

Frank Curzio: And I don’t know if you know this, but over a billion dollars in May flew into NFT and Web3 products, in May. Think about the market, right? I mean, we don’t know what’s next for June. I know that, I think it was Magic Labs it’s called, an NFT platform, just got a $100 million plus investment, evaluation is 1.6. But there’s tons of money flowing into this. The big money is flowing into this, because this is going to be the future. And I appreciate you coming on and explaining this in detail to my audience, man.

Pete Parente: You know, Frank, that was the thing about the Shiba, you’re talking about moves, I put 15,000 into Shiba my first trade. That went up to 1.2 million, that 15,000 right there. At the same time, my son… And again, my wallet got hacked, that’s why we need to do a security… How to keep stuff secure later, and what to trust, not trust. But, see, my son is 15 years old, he put 50 of that. He gave me $50 from working, he said, “Can I have $50 in Shiba?” Transferred to his wallet. That $50, in a month, went to 8,500 for the kid.

Frank Curzio: Wow.

Pete Parente: $50. I mean, think of it.

Frank Curzio: Yeah.

Pete Parente: $50 for a 15-year-old, I mean, crap, if 50 went to 100… Then he got mad because I told him to put his other half in Safe Moon. He goes, “Why didn’t you tell me to put it all here?” I’m like, “Monday morning quarterback.”

Frank Curzio: Yeah. Welcome to the world of real investing and stuff. So no, great stuff, Pete, and I’m looking forward to seeing you next week at the conference with TGC sponsoring Met Expo. So, I’ll see you in Vegas in a few days, buddy.

Pete Parente: Awesome. Yeah, I’m looking forward to it.

Frank Curzio: Sounds good. Take care.

Pete Parente: Take care, have a good one, guys.

Frank Curzio: Great stuff from Pete. Can see how honest he is, hardworking, passionate, no BS. And I think that’s why we get along so well. Maybe it’s the New Yorker in me, but if we don’t like you, we don’t talk to you, right? And we say it how it is. And I think so many people listen to the podcast and they always say, “Well, you say it how it is.” I’m telling the truth. And I feel like, in today’s world, when you tell the truth, you get in trouble. But that’s me, and I’m not changing, and neither is Pete. So, we hit it off right away. And he’s a brilliant guy, I love the passion, and that story I told you about… We wouldn’t have been in this deal without him. We wouldn’t have had the deal without him, right?

Frank Curzio: And I went to a conference and met one of his employees, and I was talking, someone wanted me to explain this security token and how we did it, and how incredible it was, and how we will deduce if it’s original. And when I started talking to him, he’s the one that talked about TCG World. And I started looking into it. And then in the contract negotiations, and what kind of real estate we wanted, it was Pete that helped out a lot with that in terms of saying, “Hey, you want commercial real estate, because this is an investment, you’re going to be able to rent it out, you’re going to be able to lease this stuff.” He’s like, “Then just buying individual parcels, there’s different ways that we’re going to do it.” But it was a commercial real estate angle. And he was a big part of that, right?

Frank Curzio: So, you only gain access if you put yourself out there. And if you’re young, you got to put yourself out there. You got to go to conferences, you got to meet people, you got to talk to people. And I don’t care if they’re an asshole, because there’s always something you can take from that person. And I hear that all the time, because I know so many people. And when you go to Wall Street, in my part of the world, there’s a lot of arrogant people in there that people don’t like. But these people are brilliant. And they’re brilliant in certain areas.

Frank Curzio: And sometimes you just have to check that ego at the door and just be like, “Okay, let me listen to this guy talk about himself forever, and ever, and ever.” Yeah, I see that a lot in Wall Street. But for me, you got to get out there, because I had no idea. I went to a conference to talk about a security token, which is an investment conference for our industry in financial newsletter publishing, and here I am meeting someone that has a Metaverse project, that introduced me to someone. Got in touch with Pete. Now look what happened, we just signed the biggest deal in Metaverse history in terms of virtual real estate. Again, that record was broken, as I mentioned. But that’s how all this stuff happens, right? It’s by networking and knowing people.

Frank Curzio: I got to tell you something too, is with the crypto market crashing, you’re seeing all the bullshit get wiped out. And it’s like what we saw during the dot com bubble, right, where a lot of the garbage got wiped out. And now I’m getting introduced to people, real projects where they don’t want to deal with any BS, they want to deal with real people with credibility. And just the meetings that have taken place, especially over the past month or two, and the access that we’re getting right now is incredible. Because we have a platform of people that are interested, we have a history of being in this world where people could trust us, where they’re like, “Oh, this isn’t some Wall Street asshole just saying, “Oh, I want to get into this, and buy this crap.” No, this guy created the security token, one of the first ever, wow, this guy just made the largest virtual real estate purchase.

Frank Curzio: Bringing it all together while we keep our core publishing industry and getting access to more, and more, and more people through this world. But the context, and the people that I’m meeting right now, it’s like meeting the Carl Icahn’s, the Ackman’s of the industry. I mean, this is who we’re gaining access to.

Frank Curzio: I spent a lot of time to do that across my career, I took a long time to do it within the mining industry thanks to guys like Marin Katusa, Rick Rule, Jeff Phillips. I mean, there’s a big difference between getting in the inside in that industry and getting into deals earlier than the bullshit and all the garbage, which a lot of people get into just by going to the conferences. And they’re like, “Wow, I can get into a private placement a dollar.” They’re like, “Frank, you want to get in?” I’m like, “I’m in at 15 cents.” Okay, so there’s a big difference with having that access, which… And you can’t fake it. You got to go in there, people got to trust you, you got to be honest, you got to be yourself, because they’re going to figure it out right away, these are real people.

Frank Curzio: But the access that we’re gaining in this market is incredible, and the projects that we’re seeing are absolutely incredible. And that’s the best time to invest, because you’re seeing a crash in the market, and the markets coming down tremendously, and now even the good projects, and a lot of these tokens are getting nailed, but even the good projects, and the people with access to, you can get involved in these companies. And that’s what you’re going to see out of Crypto Intelligence, which again, just like every other crypto newsletter, everybody out there, has been getting murdered, a lot of the stuff has come down, it’s totaled the leveraging, everything, even the good names are coming down. We have no shit in that portfolio, but even the good names are getting hit, just like you’re seeing with the markets when everything de-leverages.

Frank Curzio: But the access we’re going to have in terms of getting into stuff very, very early, private placements, new projects. I’m talking about people who are working with Elon Musk. And you know me, you’ve listened to me a long time, you know I don’t bullshit. It’s just, on the inside of this world, it’s very hard to get in on the inside. And we’re right there, which is going to be fantastic, because we have a great audience, they know it, we have a podcast, thanks to you guys, I still can’t believe you guys listen to me for this long, which is insane. But hey, you know what? We do it, and we want to make money together, this is how we do it.

Frank Curzio: So, just the contacts we’ve been able to build in this industry have been incredible, and Pete is one of those. And he’s introduced me to so many people. And now look, we’re going to a conference next week. If anyone is interested, we have… Just go to our website, we got half off, 50% off, it’s the best we could do. I think it’s $99 to go to the expo, which is in Vegas. And that’s going to be on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday of next week. So, I think it’s the eighth, ninth, and 10th. And we’re going to be a keynote speaker there. But now we’re going to be introduced to so many great people within that conference, because it is a Metaverse Expo, the guys from TCG are obviously going to be there, they’re hosting it, there’s going to be other Metaverses there.

Frank Curzio: But just the real people. We’re going to know all these people, we’re going to get them all on video. Just great stuff to really educate everyone out there on the Metaverse, on NFT’s from the people who matter. And that’s important, right? It’s not bullshit where you got… Buy this ape that craps a banana, and if you have enough bananas, it creates a baby ape. None of that, right? And it’s none of that bullshit. This is real projects, real NFT’s, and looking at the access, I think there’s going to be about 5,000 people there.

Frank Curzio: Yeah, and we’re going to be a keynote speaker, a nice booth on the floor. And we are going to set up as a studio where we’re going to interview just about every single speaker. Not every single speaker, but the ones who are the most influential, which thanks to David at TCG, and they’re partnering with us, and shareholders now that we did that deal, we get introduced to everybody. Everybody they know, we’re going to get introduced to.

Frank Curzio: And same with them. If they got someone and say, “Hey, this guys really cool, Frank, get him on the podcast.” Or whatever it is, and that leads to new ideas, it all comes with networking. And a lot of that cannot happen without you, and the audience that we have for Curzio Research and for Wall Street Unplugged. So, I just want to say thanks, appreciate it. And again, I’m going to bring you some really, really good stuff very, very early in this field. And you’re going to get it at very cheap prices due to the market absolutely collapsing, and even the good projects collapsing.

Frank Curzio: So, I want to thank Pete for coming on, really great stuff. I say this all the time, the podcast is about you, not about me. So, email me what you thought of that interview. Was it too much NFT? Was it too much crypto? Again, we’re getting more into crypto, and building it, and as well as stocks, talk about the market. But again, it’s about you, not about me. Let me know what you thought, frank@curzioresearch.com. That’s frank@curzioresearch.com. And that’s it for me. I’ll see you on the other side of the week. So have a great, great weekend. And any questions or comments, guys, remember, I’m always here for you, frank@curzioresearch.com. I’ll see you next week, have a great week. Take care.

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